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Big real estate developers do it all the time - like yesterday, when the owner of New York City's Stuyvesant Town complex decided to stop paying its $3 billion mortgage. So why are you still writing a check every month on that mortgage that's much bigger than your home is actually worth?

Good question, University of Chicago economist Richard Thaler says. Thaler tells New York Times readers that it's not just alright to walk away from one's over-sized mortgage -- it may actually be a moral imperative. (An earlier Times article, by Roger Lowenstein, said much the same thing.) After all, lenders had no second thoughts about lending more than many borrowers could afford or than the homes might actually be worth. It's just not fair to expect borrowers to follow rules that the lenders don't.

But why stop there? Some commentators are now calling on borrowers to start a mass mortgage strike.

"Remember burning draft cards? Burn your mortgage," a diarist on the blog DailyKos told readers recently:
"The real risk to the banks and investors is that the people in those homes might just decide to walk away. And that's what we must do. Doesn't have to be everybody, of course; but anyone who finds themselves seriously underwater with no hope of ever recouping their investment....just walk away Renee. Morality has nothing to do with it. You are a cog in the wheel of a machine that is killing this country and if you remain a cog you enable it. Remove your cog and the machine will not keep running. Remove millions of cogs and the machine gets replaced."
Now the call for a borrowers' revolt is being joined by folks who know an opportunity when they see it: real estate agents. Over the past month, agents have been rushing to declare 2010 "the year of the strategic default." Here's Connecticut Realtor Minna Reid:
Loan modifications do not address the real problem of heavy negative equity and are sure to fail most of the time. Even if the homeowner lowers their current payment they are left more trapped than ever. There will be no quick recovery this time. Years later when there is a need to HAVE TO move, the original problem of being upside down remains and the modified homeowner is left to short sell or foreclose once again.

Isn't it better to just cut the losses upfront ?

I know many will consider strategic default wrong or immoral, but as for me, I stopped passing judgment long ago.
Reid is far from the only real estate agent using mass revolt against the banks as a sales strategy. San Diego broker Bob Schwartz asks, "How many homeowners will suddenly wake up to the fact that their home is now worth tens of thousands of dollars less than their mortgage balance? Only the naive will believe that their San Diego home's value will bounce back anytime soon.... Defaulting "strategically" can entice more walk-aways by buying all the major items they may need in the near future, such as a car or even a house, right before they take a hike. As long as you stay current with other mortgage lenders, one could potentially have a good credit standing in 2 years after the walk-away."

And Phoenix agent Bob Stahl joins the chorus, assuring borrowers that a strategic default followed by a short sale won't hurt their ability to get a mortgage in the future.

Many of the agents calling for a mass movement of strategic defaulters specialize in short sales -- selling a home for less than the mortgage on it – something that mortgage servicers will often only consider once a borrower has begun to miss payments. It's ironic that after years of helping push prices up to maximize commissions, real estate agents are now pushing borrowers to dump their properties in short sales, so they can jump in and close a deal.

Still, they may be on to something.

Calling for mass strategic defaults is the equivalent of shouting "fire" in a crowded theater, prompting a stampede to the exits, and stampedes can leave a lot of people hurt – in this case, all the homeowners who live next door to the borrowers who stop paying, and suddenly see their property values plummet.

But there's also potential for millions of borrowers to gain if strategic defaults occur on a large scale. Nearly one in four borrowers nationally owes at least 20 percent more on mortgages than their home is actually worth, and in Nevada and Arionza it's more than half. The Wall Street Journal reports that about 1 million borrowers deliberately decided to stop paying their mortgages in 2009, or one in four of all mortgage defaults. When a critical mass of borrowers stops paying, it makes lenders – really, we're talking about the investors in mortgage-backed securities -- a whole lot more receptive to the idea of lowering the principal borrowers owe on their mortgages to persuade them that it's worth continuing to pay.

"People are spending far more on mortgage and ownership costs than they would to rent the same unit and there is almost no realistic prospect that there will ever get equity in many of these homes," says Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research and author of the book False Profits: Recovering From the Bubble Economy. "Walking away will save them money and also free up money for consumption, thereby providing a boost to the economy. Banks will likely be far more forgiving of people who default in this crisis than they would ordinarily be. This isn't altruism -- they want to be able to make loans."
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Reader Comments (Page 6 of 36)

101. theguythathelps on Tuesday, Jan 26th at 07:28:AM said...

When my (ex)wife and I were married, we purchased about 6 investment properties. After the divorce, I was "given" most of the non-performing properties. Have to pay 50% in child support. After all tax writeoffs made only $365.00 dollars last year...and still continue to fight to keep them. Its about the only thing I have left that holds value....MY WORD. I choose to keep trying.

102. gary on Tuesday, Jan 26th at 07:26:AM said...

This article was written by by dope-smoking 60's hippy who never grew up. Only an irresponsible 15 year old punk would advise to commit fraud. 10 years of bad credit and it lowers your neighbors home value--creatikng a never ending cycle downward. Get the government out of the way and the market will cleanse itself like a flowing stream cleans itself naturally. When the communists compel us to lower our standards and morals, and then we do it--we lose! Don't walk away from your responsibilities because your walking away from freedom and liberty, walk away from the socialists and their "non-reality".

103. Rocki on Tuesday, Jan 26th at 07:29:AM said...

I am in agreement with the walk away policy. Remember back, the people who raised the prices of homes were real estate brokers and banks supported them. Contractors got rich building less houses, banks got rich and brokers fueled the fire. I was part of that trend and saw back then a collapse of the system. At one time, owning a home was based on one income, not two. They changed that and raised the price of the homes at the same time. And of course, people fell for the pretty picture. Time for payback. Fall back and regroup your loss and go forward.

104. sonya on Tuesday, Jan 26th at 03:08:PM said...

"Real Estate Brokers" did not raise the prices of the homes, demand due to ease of obtaining loans, which put more people into the housing market, and so on...

105. C on Tuesday, Jan 26th at 07:35:AM said...

Who is going to pay for the bail out of the banks that fail because people who are financially irresponsible walk away from their mortgage obligations? Working Americans thats who. The current admin has failed the American people. I owned a business for 20 years and the current economy put me out of business and 10 people lost their jobs. The banks did not force these homeowners to drain every penny of equity from their homes so they could get a pool or flat screen TV. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY should be the new buzz word. It is a disgrace that an economist would suggest you have a moral obligation to default on your mortgage. American who are lucky enough to have jobs are over burdened with taxes already, they are affraid to spend what money they do have because of the reckless spending and government intrusions into our lives. Recomending that people default will only contribute to the econimic demise this nation appears to be headed for. The government can not assist those who are truly in need of its help if no one is employed. Be responsible for your own actions, the bank did not hold a gun to your head and force you to indebt yourself beyond your ability to pay.

106. Buster on Tuesday, Jan 26th at 07:33:AM said...

people shouldn't blame others for their poor judgment, the banks didn't force them to apply for a loan!!

107. Robeth on Tuesday, Jan 26th at 07:35:AM said...

We lose our home in NH, just b'cause we apply for loan modification.
One day they approved and d next day we've got letter that our house has been on forclosure...what was that about...we were just about to start a new payment and they kick us out...that's not nice n that is very rude...

108. Michael J. on Tuesday, Jan 26th at 07:32:AM said...

I have been lucky that my home is worth a lot more then I brought it for and don't owe much more then the price of a new honda crv. I would of never before considered such a move but after the last year seeing how so many people have been hurt because of the greed of bankers I'm starting to see from another prepective.

The American taxpayer shelled hundreds of billions of dollars to bail the banks out.The government alway saying they are looking out for decided to change the credit card laws. Of course what they really did was screw everyone.

Now the banks are back on their feet thanks to the taxpayers and they can't find enought ways to screw everyone over for more profits. Unemployment is hight interest rates on credit cards are sky high. Credit limits cut and they aren't doing much if anything at all to help people with their mortgages.

So think about it , they are robbing us blind. Would you really take this from some one you know? Of course not , so why take it from the banks? They have had it to good for to long at our expense , it's time people do take a stand and look out for the real number 1 , you and your family.

109. Dave on Tuesday, Jan 26th at 07:33:AM said...

This is insane! You think the economy is bad now? This will destroy it.

Remember this, while you're reading this "great idea..." The person who leading the "walk away" charge WON'T walk away, but rather will buy YOUR house at pennies on the dollar when the bank has to dump it. He'll make out like a bandit, while you'll end up with "Foreclosure" against you. Know this: while a bankruptcy disappears after several years, a foreclosure does not. It will follow you forever, screwing you over.

110. Kent on Tuesday, Jan 26th at 07:51:AM said...

I am underwater on my home by 80k vs my mortgage. Can anyone give me advise on dealing with the bank game; i.e. when to hold and when to fold?????

111. Tracie on Tuesday, Jan 26th at 07:37:AM said...

I agree with Bronco

112. dmauk on Tuesday, Jan 26th at 08:12:AM said...

It is not a moral imperative. It's theft. You signed the documents. You had the intention of selling your overpriced home to the next sucker, and as long as you got away with it, you were fine in selling your overpriced home. The bank didn't sell you the home. The bank only made it possible for your to have a loan YOU should have decided waas too risky. We have lost our moral compass in this country to say that the bank is at fault. Remeber all those people who have savings in the bank? Well, if enough people walk away from their homes, and the bank goes bankrupt because of your theft, what's going to happen to all of those who had savings in the bank who now are only going to get 60% if lucky of what they had in the bank. No, you signed the documents just like me. My wife and I are upside down about $40,000. But we signed. And whether it be rent, or house payment, we still have to have a place to live.

113. Peter on Tuesday, Jan 26th at 07:47:AM said...

So this idiot will have all of us devalue our homes even further collaspe the economy, put everyone out of work since the banks fail, no loans no business etc. What kind of idiots do the papers allow to write. Have we not seen what happens when a small percentage default dah

114. Alexander Treutler on Tuesday, Jan 26th at 08:09:AM said...

The Q was asked: "Would you have split the equity with your bank if housing prices had continued to rise?" Hello, are you on our planet? The banks do that implicitly. Over the course of a 25-year span the banks collect interest that is app. three times the value of the original home price. If your home doubles but the bank collects three times the purchase price, why would you not see this as banks taking a chunk out of your pocket?

115. bh on Tuesday, Jan 26th at 07:53:AM said...

Ahh, but wasn't it so cool to be able to buy a $400,000.00 home when you only made 25,000.00 a year. Banks aren't the only ones to blame. I've lived within my means while watching people that made half what I did live it up buying huge houses and land just because they could get approved and not thinking about future problems. Now blame their problems on someone else? What a bunch of idiots!

116. sue on Tuesday, Jan 26th at 07:49:AM said...

The banks SCREWED YOU OVER! OMG, please. These people bought homes they KNEW they couldn't afford. Why? Because here in the US, we feed the need to look more wealthy than we actually are. Then, you have these people riding the train of investment opportunity. Buying and selling homes for profit, not because they EVER intended on living in them. Now, I am suppose to feel sorry for them! I DON't. The banks need to offer 40-50 year mortgages and keep these people in there homes. You don't get to walk away because you made a wrong choice, you need to get help in staying there. Blame the banks, blame the real estate agents. I understand, they are to blame but that doesn't give these homeowners the right to walk away from their responsibilities. I made the choice to live in my home, I made the choice to live BELOW my means, I saved and now they get off scotch free from their responsibilities because their homes are worth less. BS, they made that decision to live in a home that was more than they could afford.! Now they are living in that home and not paying the mortgage so they have a home that's free! Wow!

117. Barb on Tuesday, Jan 26th at 07:53:AM said...

First of all, Alyssa, "alright" is not one word. It is hard to believe you did not learn this. Please use "all right." Secondly, it is rarely acceptable to walk away from your debts. Nobody forced you to buy above your means, but somebody darn well forced the banks to lend to you. The banks are not the evil ones in all of this. Notice how our government tries to demonize the banks, Wall Street, business, anyone who did not vote for Obama and does not walk in lock step with him or dares to question. ACORN, Obama, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd had more to do with the housing meltdown than any banker.

118. john on Tuesday, Jan 26th at 07:57:AM said...

If you are employed and can make your payment you are obligated it is your home and you agreed to the terms of the deal believing you able and willing to pay. However If you find Unexpectedly Broke unemployed or destitute and unable to Pay your mortgage then you may without any guilt of concience lay you body on the alter of bankrupsy and admit defeat, let them have it back. And they will loose nothing they can sel it again to recover their loss that is what your intrest rate is for it insures their loss upon default they are gambling you see when they lend you the cash. So the lenders loose a little But thats the investment Game not all Gambles pay out big or at all.

But if you Just Walk away sour grapes because you paid more than the home is worth when you have the means to pay your agreed on amount You are the one deserving this is just your fault you were to dumb to realize that a buildings true worth is never more that the materials and the mexican citizens labor that built it on a 5,000 square ft house that is about 80,000 dollars so if you agreed to 300.000 pluss intrest who realy is the fool or ass.

119. Juls on Tuesday, Jan 26th at 08:53:AM said...

Ridiculous... walk away from a comittment..What are we teaching our children? Must be a Democrazy that wrote the articles. Let's all be losers and live in apartments

Yeah...right

120. Gary on Tuesday, Jan 26th at 07:55:AM said...

Let's all step back to a time like my grandparents and save our money and pay for everything in cash NO MORE CREDIT!!!!!!!!! that would really stick it to the banks and mortgage companies and people would live within their means......................

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